Showing posts with label Turner. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Turner. Show all posts

Tuesday, November 23, 2010

Looking to Sell

So with the Yeti ASR 5 on order, it's time to part ways with the Turner Flux. It's been a good little project, but ultimately not the right bike. The 4" of travel was enough, but the suspension design was built for speed, not for comfort. The ASR 5 has a more active travel and should bolster the girlfriend's confidence through steeper and more technical downhills.

I still flip through pictures during the Turner build. I remember keeping the build a secret, ordering parts and hiding them until it was time to build everything.

I couldn't wait to unveil the bike, so I actually showed it to her mostly complete (front derailleur was the wrong kind).


Here's a picture of her installing the pegs on her Tioga Surefoot 8 platform pedals.



The Flux is for sale now as a complete bike ($1900obo), rolling frame ($1400obo, no drivetrain or brakes), or as a frameset ($1050obo, frame, CK headset, Fox F100 fork).

Spec List:
Frame: 2008 Turner Flux XS, Red color (copper)
Shock: RP23 with newly installed HV air can. Standard air can also included, along with 1 seal kit.
Fork: 2008 Fox F100 RL, 9mm QR
Headset: Chris King Nothreadset, black
Seatpost Clamp: Hope 31.8, Gunsmoke color

Wheelset: DT Swiss 4.2, 1638g (actual measurements 759/879 front/rear)
Front hub is 9mm through axle stout hub, with hadley axle
Rear hub is 10mm through axle DT swiss hub with 240 internals, with hadley axle
Taped for tubeless, but currently set up with tubes

Front Tire: WTB Mutano Raptor 2.4" Folding Bead 600g
Rear Tire: Panaracer Fire XC Pro 2.1" Folding Bead 580g (127tpi japanese version)
(Also have two Maxxis Crossmark 2.1" tires, if that's more to your liking)

Seatpost: Thomson Elite 27.2 no setback, silver
Saddle: WTB SpeedShe OR Specialized Avatar 143mm
Stem: Thomson X4 90x10, 31.8 OS clamp, black
Handlebar: Truvativ Stylo, brand new
Grips: ODI ruffian or Ergon GP1

Brakes:BRAND NEW Avid Elixir 5 brakeset, 160mm. Magura Marta SL, Avid G3, or Ashima AirRotor
Drivetrain:
- BRAND NEW X7 10sp x-glide crank, front derailleur, shifters
- BRAND NEW X9 10sp x-glide rear derailleur
- 10sp chain, 12-36 10sp cassette
Pedals:SPD, SPD + Platform, or Time ATAC pedals

Sunday, November 14, 2010

Yeti Demo Day

I set out to ride the Fullerton Loop with Mark. To my surprise, this is what awaited at the trailhead.

The Yeti truck was setting up for a free demo day. The demos were not officially being released, which gave Mark and I a good hour to do the loop. An hour later, I returned to the parking lot to chat with Nick and Sarah from Yeti, and to demo ASR 5C for a quick second loop. I have to say the bike was impressive for 5 inches; it took the little jumps without hesitation and pedaled like a champ. However, it rode very similar to my 575. Though it wasn't what I was looking for in a clyde-worthy XC racebike, I did leave with one important piece of information. The Yeti ASR 5 comes in x-small.

I tracked down the Yeti demo truck a few days later near Whiting Ranch, but this time had girlfriend in arm. Sarah was reluctant to take a bike out for a demo, reluctant as always from buying more bike toys. With a few test rides around the parking lot, she seemed determined not to take the bike out. It didn't feel right. It's too big. It's too expensive. But with a bit of persistence, and some A+ help from Nick @ Yeti, we finally got the fit dialed in. Nick swapped out the 90mm stem for a 70mm, put on brand new carbon bars, and then cut the new bars (!) for our use. Still, the bars were maybe 1/2" too wide on each side, but Sarah said they felt much better.

We rode Whiting with vigor and excitement. With every trail section, Sarah seemed to enjoy the bike more and more. She said things like, "The bike is just so smooth," and "This trail is actually a lot of fun." Being that it was her first time at Whiting, we hit the same trail the next day on the Turner Flux for a direct comparison. Here is how the bikes fared in a back-to-back trail comparison.

Our ride began with Borrego, as per the usual Whiting loop. The ASR5 suspension is much more active than the Turner Flux, and Sarah says she feels like she's gliding through the terrain. I can visually see the rear triangle actuate over bumps, something I never really saw with the Turner Flux. Even with the high volume air canister and 50psi of pressure, the Flux didn't look quite right. The Yeti looks spot on.
Small bump compliance - Yeti: 8.5/10, Turner: 4/10

Climbing Mustard proved to be physically strenuous, but the bike characteristics were apparent. Even though the suspension was moving, the ASR 5 didn't seem to exhibit any pedal induced bob. Though it goes against traditional thinking, suspension movement while climbing isn't always a bad thing. Less slipping, more traction, minimal power loss through pedaling. You could argue that a stiffer, less active rear suspension is more efficient, but a novice needs more rubber on the ground. As long as pedaling doesn't cause the suspension to actuate, there really isn't much efficiency lost. Perhaps if the climb was a stand-up-and-smash climb, the Flux would have the edge.
Climbing Efficiency - Yeti: 8/10, Turner 7/10

Top of Four Corners. Yeti Tribe!!

Our descent from Four Corners took us through Whiting Ranch Road and Serrano Cow (no Cactus/Sleep Hallow yet). I call out the upcoming downhill sections, but Sarah just plowed through. The rest of the trail has somewhat steep, non-technical fire road downhills, some flowy singletrack/doubletracks, and a few dips. Though there were some squirrely parts on the dips and rutted downhills, the ASR5 floated through it all. The Flux performed much better with the high volume air canister vs standard volume, but it wasn't even close to the ASR5. Yeti all the way. Stable, 67d headtube angle. Longer wheelbase. Superior suspension design.
Downhilling "Fun" - Yeti: 10/10, Turner 6/10

In the end, the Yeti wins hands down. Is it worth the $$$$ to upgrade Sarah's bike? Hell yes. Sarah and I discussed the particulars and have the exact bike we would like to purchase.


Yeti ASR 5 Alloy
X-small, blue with white rear triangle
2011 Enduro Build
(Fox Float 140mm fork, 3x10 SRAM X9/X7)
Eventually, the bike will get the Thomson/Ergon/Shimano Dyna-Sys treatment.

Unfortunately, I haven't seen any 2011s in the right color/build combination. I have a few calls out to my LBS, so I am hopeful. I have the specific frame, fork, build, and price point. Let's make a deal!